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工作学习 / 科技领域杂谈 / 正在圣何塞出差,发现一个商机。这里的政府正在考虑一个零污染的交通系统方案:以Internet Packet Switching的方式输送人, 从小幻想的真正的21世纪的运输系统,将是人类未来的方向。整个湾区建一个庞大的单轨网络,连接各个大公司各大商场各枢纽,在其上放上数万个两人或四人的小电车。每人上车输入自己的目的地,即达。
流量控制, congestion control, QoS, UI, TCP/IP在现实生活中的应用,这项目投资几十个亿,爽!
-mikesmith(老猫);
2010-6-2
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几十个亿乘以10也不见得够用。。
-z24(Quick!24房明月夜);
2010-6-2
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Agreed. But if this is the model of future human transportation - bicycle + electronic packet switching cart system, and eliminate the dependancy on fossile oil, it is a worthy investment.
-mikesmith(老猫);
2010-6-2
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除非美国人放弃田园梦和中日韩国人一样都挤进大城市里。。否则经济上不划算。。
-z24(Quick!24房明月夜);
2010-6-2
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The current way if living in North America is not sustainable. Something is gonna change.
-mikesmith(老猫);
2010-6-2
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I thought the design of "Internet Packet Switching" and so on are based on real-life metaphors -- not the other way around.
-cca(不归的如来佛);
2010-6-2
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LOL. In this world, it may be easier the other way around.
-mikesmith(老猫);
2010-6-2
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WALL e里面的Idea
-firetrain(火车头);
2010-6-2
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hmm, you are right. but this is 封闭型的,not chairs
-mikesmith(老猫);
2010-6-2
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what will happen if packet is lost? or it's keep on re-routing when nature calls?
-coolmao(酷猫*Zensunni);
2010-6-2
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packet is lost? re-generate and re-send.
-mikesmith(老猫);
2010-6-2
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这个大蛋糕主要还是基建和电气,信息系统并不复杂,占得比例也会很小,赶紧改行吧,呵呵。
-hurrah(猫眼);
2010-6-2
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we have invented fully automatic car long time ago, people just get in, say the place you want to go, then you will be thereit is called CAB. - Top Gear
-sailingspyder(中了共军声东击西之计);
2010-6-3
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Why not give everyone a Volt?
-liquid(豆泡松果 之 松果豆泡);
2010-6-3
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A few key advantage of this system: 1) Zero emission; 2) Optimize between mass transportation and personal flexibility; 3) Use math model to control traffic flow and achieve maximum efficiency
-mikesmith(老猫);
2010-6-3
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Volt also has zero emission. I can think about two problems for the system: for week days, there will be long wait to get to work, and for weekends, there will be long wait plus traffic jam to shopping malls.
-liquid(豆泡松果 之 松果豆泡);
2010-6-3
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San Jose is spending $4M, 9 months to perform a viability study. But I can give them the answer now.Think of Internet as a model.
- each cart is a packet, with a source and destination address (IP), classified with different priorities(DSCP), if we apply flow control, congestion management, congestion avoidance, etc etc., assuming there is enough bandwidth, everything will be OK.
If Internet works out well, I see no reason why this won't.
-mikesmith(老猫);
2010-6-3
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It will never work because of speed. Think about how much bytes can be transferred over wire per second, and how many carts can be transferred per minute.
-liquid(豆泡松果 之 松果豆泡);
2010-6-3
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It depends. The idea of Pod Car is not new. Here is an article about it.
-mikesmith(老猫);
2010-6-3
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I agree it's a great idea, but with too many issues to put into implementation. Every morning we get to work by driving on different roads and there are traffic jams. With Pod Cars it will get even worse.
-liquid(豆泡松果 之 松果豆泡);
2010-6-3
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0污染不大可能吧,动力从哪来?电力车算不算0污染?制造汽车的企业和发电厂都没有污染吗?个人认为人要生存就会污染,要想减低污染只能像北欧那些国家那样降低出生率。
-i3i3(胖子);
2010-6-3
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you are right. it is zero emission, from the car
-mikesmith(老猫);
2010-6-3
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原子弹不用的时候也是zero emission,呵呵~不好意思俺乱说滴。
-i3i3(胖子);
2010-6-3
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你这个和地铁一样,投资太大。现在技术上可以实现的是无人驾驶汽车。将来无人驾驶车辆将成为公共交通工具:你早上乘车上班,到公司后,下夜班的人乘你的车回家。由汽车公司总电脑调度车辆,效率将很高。
-rollor(Rollor);
2010-6-3
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维护费用也超大。
-i3i3(胖子);
2010-6-3
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费用很小。具体描述在这里:#6104689@0
-rollor(Rollor);
2010-6-3
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It is better than subway system as it is still indivisually runned. Before leaving your home in the morning, send a text msg...it will be routed to the nearest pod station, a car will be ready for you when you get there and programmed for the destination. Jump on the car and you can start working with your iPad.
The cost is cheaper than subway - the car itself is very light weight as there is no risk of collision, due to the advanced centralized control in the "CLOUD".
And in 50 years or so when fossil fuel is running out, it may be the only sensible solution.
-mikesmith(老猫);
2010-6-3
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法国巴黎街边有很多自行车供人随时租用。杭州西湖边也有,头俩小时免费,之后也巨便宜,很方便也更环保。其实搞一个系统帮人们换工作,尽可能就近上班减少使用道路,更靠谱一点。
-i3i3(胖子);
2010-6-3
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换工作plus换房
-qiongagao(qiongagao);
2010-6-26
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最节省能源的办法是在家做宅男/女,现在很多行业,80%的工作可以在家做,完全不用去公司上班,既省公司能源,也避免了交通杜塞。。。
-noproblem(密西洒家。o O);
2010-6-3
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没错,很多人每天往返很远去上班而另一些人跟他们跑相反的路,两者在类似的公司干着类似的工作,完全的浪费。
-i3i3(胖子);
2010-6-3
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It is so right. Right now the bank call centre agents have already working from home as long as their have secure space at home.It is so right. Right now the bank call centre agents have already working from home as long as their have secure space at home. And other officers can choose working from home or going to the nearest branch for work if they like to social with people. However the internet packet swithing is still a super idea
-reflect(reflect);
2010-6-6
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基于任何物体都是由能量构成的, 只要能把人体解构成一定顺序的能量, 然后通过网络传输, 到达终点后按原顺序重构回去, 这才是终级的人类自身传输解决方案.
-benbuxiangshuo(说说无妨);
2010-6-3
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very nice. star trek era begins here.
-mikesmith(老猫);
2010-6-3
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既然能解构,就应该能复制。万一电讯公司悄悄把我复制几份,那些复制品到底是我还是不是我?
-rollor(Rollor);
2010-6-3
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很简单, 用你自己独有的DNA密码加密你的信息包并含"禁止复制"功能. 当然QoS必须得到保障, 否则漏传一只胳膊腿的就麻烦了
-benbuxiangshuo(说说无妨);
2010-6-3
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只要有加密,就有解密。而且,这事只能交给专业公司去干,而专业公司必然有违法窃密的能力。所以。。。。
-rollor(Rollor);
2010-6-3
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看来只有等共产主义社会, 现在人类的所有劣根性都随着社会的发展而消失了...
-benbuxiangshuo(说说无妨);
2010-6-4
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前提:人是物质的,可分解。有没有考虑soul的问题呢?万一人有一部分是无形无影不可捕捉的呢?
-mikesmith(老猫);
2010-6-3
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那不正好一下子证明了 Soul 的存在?几千年争论不休的问题终于有了答案。
-rollor(Rollor);
2010-6-3
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我说的是能量不是物质, 据说有科学家正在试图证明Soul也是由能量构成的
-benbuxiangshuo(说说无妨);
2010-6-4
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嗯,也许是暗物质,反物质,暗能量,反能量。
-mikesmith(老猫);
2010-6-4
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我的大刀和菜板已经准备好了,谁先来,切好后编号,保证传输后可以组装复原。如果线路阻塞,导致少一胳膊少一腿,也有办法。我们可以现在源端克隆,只发送克隆的你,如果缺胳膊少腿,就再克隆一次重发。
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2010-6-4
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中国科学家首次实现了远距量子态“超时空传送”
-rollor(Rollor);
2010-6-5
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吓,你打算怎么qos, 打算扔谁?
-cam2007(米老虎);
2010-6-4
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当然按体重,谁沉先扔谁
-mikesmith(老猫);
2010-6-4
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